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Re: Building A Pure Nation by Rob Skiba

This is a point by point rebuttal to Rob Skiba’s post: Building a Pure Nation. Out of the sake of fairness and in the spirit of friendly debate, I’m posting Rob Skiba’s link so you can read his words for yourself and to help you better understand what I am responding to. Also in the spirit of Proverbs 18:13 and Acts 17:11 I encourage everyone to look at both sides of the issue and come to your own conclusions.

In my opinion, there is no need to go beyond the flood to completely dismantle and debunk Rob’s entire premise.

The Theory Falls Flat

“According the Book of Jasher, Noah married one of Enoch’s daughters.[1] In Genesis 5:24, the Bible tells us that Enoch was so righteous in God’s eyes that He took the man to Heaven without ever having to die. So, it is reasonable to assume that his daughter certainly would have known the truth and had been a great candidate for Noah to marry. Going with the assumption that Noah and his wife were physically/genetically pure, their three sons, Japheth, Shem and Ham must also have been genetically pure. But that does not necessarily mean their wives were.

Jasher says that Methuselah had a brother named Eliakim who had three daughters. Noah picked them as wives for his three sons.[2] The statement is also made that all but Noah, his family and Methuselah had strayed from God (including Noah’s father Lamech).[3] This being the case, it is reasonable to assume that Eliakim falls into the category of those who had gone the way of evil, which could imply that his daughters may have become corrupted by “The Genesis Six Experiment.” This would certainly seem to explain how the giants appeared “after that” (that meaning the Flood).

I believe the Biblical account proves that at least one of the wives of Noah’s sons had Nephilim blood running through her veins. That one was Ham’s wife. I say that because his lineage is literally loaded with giants! I don’t really see evidence in Shem or in Japeth’s lineage, but of the four sons of Ham, at least three appeared to have produced giants… and lots of them!” – Rob Skiba

I do not hold Jasher or Enoch to be scripture, but let’s assume that it’s 100% true as Rob does. It completely disproves his entire theory.

  1. Methuselah and Eliakim have the same father: Enoch. This means that both Methuselah and Eliakim have a pure human bloodline.
  2. According to Jasher, Noah’s sons married three daughters of Eliakim. Being the son of Enoch, we know he was 100% human. The text is clear that these girls were his daughters, meaning 100% pure bloodline.
  3. Rob does not explain how the daughters became corrupt because THERE IS NO BIBLICAL EVIDENCE AND THERE IS NO EVIDENCE IN JASHER EITHER.

Rob’s best guess is this “could imply” they became corrupted. It could also mean the obvious, which is they were sinners and sin does not = Nephilim genes. However, there is an even bigger reason that this cannot possibly imply corruption, which I’ll show you in the next section.  There is really no reason at all to proceed past this point until Rob can answer two questions:

  1. Where in the Bible can we verify any of this?
  2. What scriptural reason is there to conclude that going the way of evil = becoming part Nephilim?

The Nail In The Coffin

I found it odd that Rob didn’t just post the exact quote from the book of Jasher, so I figured I’d hunt down the text and read it as is, without his interpretation of it. Keep in mind that I don’t consider this scripture. Here is a link to the entire book of Jasher online so you can read it for yourself. Click Here.

“And thou shalt choose for thy sons three maidens, from the daughters of men, and they shall be wives to thy sons.” – Jasher 5:32

In Jasher it is 100% clear that God commanded Noah to take three maidens from the “DAUGHTERS OF MEN”. We all agree that the phrase “daughters of men” refers to HUMAN WOMEN. How does this imply Nephilim corruption? If these women had the Nephilim gene as Rob proposes, they would not have been daughters of men, but daughters of hybrids or even daughters of angels. Ahhh, but wait there’s more.

Here are the verses that actually puts the nail in the coffin of Rob’s tainted DNA theory:

“And all the sons of men departed from the ways of the Lord in those days as they multiplied upon the face of the earth with sons and daughters, and they taught one another their evil practices and they continued sinning against the Lord. And every man made unto himself a god, and they robbed and plundered every man his neighbor as well as his relative, and they corrupted the earth, and the earth was filled with violence. And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.” – Jasher 4:16-18

According to Jasher, it wasn’t fallen angels that corrupted the earth, it was the “sons of men” (v16), Judges, and rulers (v18). The Bible says the sons of God, but Jasher says “sons of men”. Rob completely ignores the fact that Jasher directly contradicts the Bible. Which should we believe? I know which one I believe and which one I consider to be scripture, and it’s not Jasher. In fact, the words: angel, sons of God, giants, and Nephilim are never mentioned in the following chapters of Jasher:

  • Chapter 1
  • Chapter 2
  • Chapter 3 (The angel of the Lord is mentioned but no fallen or mixing with humans)
  • Chapter 4
  • Chapter 5
  • Chapter 6

These are the exact chapters that deal with the creation of man all the way to the flood, yet no mention of anything to do with fallen angels. In fact, Ham isn’t even named until Chapter 7, in which his genealogy is given. How can Rob use any of these chapters or verses for evidence of his theory when Jasher makes it clear that the writer believes HUMANS were responsible? Once again Rob’s theory completely falls apart.

So how about it Rob, can you please explain why Jasher fails to support your version of events and the Bible’s?

The Real Book of Jasher

It is my opinion that the Book of Jasher that we currently have in our possession is a fraud. The Bible clearly mentions the book of Jasher, but it does not mean that it is the book we currently have. Unfortunately people put their faith in this false text. Any text that is actual scripture will not contradict or disagree with the Bible at all. This is the exact reason that Acts 17:11 was written.

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